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The Church History Matters Podcast features in-depth conversations between Scott and Casey where they dive deep into both the challenges and beauty of Latter-day Saint Church History

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222-Did Porter Rockwell Try to Kill Governor Boggs? I Porter Rockwell I Church History Matters
1h 30m

Few stories in early Latter-day Saint history are as legendary—or as controversial—as the accusation that Porter Rockwell attempted to assassinate Missouri Governor Lilburn W. Boggs.In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths take a closer look at the evidence surrounding one of the most famous allegations against the legendary “Destroying Angel.”Did Porter Rockwell really travel to Missouri with orders to kill Governor Boggs? Or did the story grow over time through accusations, rumors, and competing narratives?There is no hard evidence proving that Porter Rockwell was the man who shot Boggs, but there are plenty of claims on both sides. Scott and Casey examine the accusations made by John C. Bennett, the historical circumstances surrounding the shooting, and the case for and against Rockwell's involvement.And then there is the famous statement attributed to Porter Rockwell himself. When questioned about the shooting, Rockwell reportedly responded that if he had done the shooting, Boggs would have been dead.Was that a confession? A denial? A threat? Or simply classic Porter Rockwell?Join Scott and Casey as they separate documented history from legend, examine the competing claims, and ask whether one of the most notorious stories about Porter Rockwell can actually be proven.Was Porter Rockwell an attempted assassin—or was he the victim of a historical accusation that became legend?#ChurchHistoryMatters #PorterRockwell #JosephSmith #LDSHistory #MormonHistory #LilburnBoggs #MissouriMormonHistory #ChurchHistory

221 - Moroni Day Celebration I A New LDS Holiday I Church History Matters
54 min

September 21: Moroni Day — The Angel, the Prophet, and the Beginning of the Book of MormonWhat happened on the night of September 21, 1823? In this special episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths are joined by Scripture Central founder Jack Welch to explore one of the most important dates in Latter-day Saint history: Moroni Day.According to Joseph Smith’s accounts, it was on the night of September 21 that the angel Moroni appeared to him and delivered a remarkable message about an ancient record buried in the earth—a record that would eventually become the Book of Mormon.Why did Moroni appear to Joseph Smith? What did Moroni tell him? What can we learn by comparing Joseph Smith’s accounts of these events? And why has September 21 become a meaningful day for remembering Moroni and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon?Scott, Casey, and Jack Welch dive into the historical accounts, the significance of Moroni’s message, and the remarkable connection between an ancient prophet and the Restoration of the gospel in the latter days.From the Hill Cumorah to the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, this episode explores the story behind one of the foundational events of the Restoration—and why September 21 deserves to be remembered as Moroni Day.Join Scott Woodward, Casey Griffiths, and Jack Welch for this special celebration of Moroni Day and the story of how an ancient record became a modern witness of Jesus Christ.What does Moroni’s appearance mean to you? Let us know in the comments!#MoroniDay #September21 #BookOfMormon #Moroni #JosephSmith #ChurchHistory #LatterDaySaints #Restoration #ScriptureCentral #ChurchHistoryMatters

220 - The Rise of Mitt Romney & The Mormon Moment I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 8m

In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore the remarkable political rise of Mitt Romney—from his family’s political legacy and his career in business and Massachusetts politics to his campaigns for the presidency in 2008 and 2012. Romney’s candidacy brought unprecedented national attention to his Latter-day Saint faith. He ultimately became the first Latter-day Saint nominated for president by a major U.S. political party. But Romney’s campaigns were about much more than politics. His candidacy helped usher in what became known as the “Mormon Moment,” a period when American media, popular culture, and the broader public took an extraordinary interest in the history, beliefs, practices, and people of the Church. From questions about Mormonism and the presidency to his famous “Faith in America” speech, Romney found himself at the center of a national conversation about religion and American public life. Scott and Casey examine what Mitt Romney represented to Latter-day Saints who watched one of their own come closer than any previous Latter-day Saint to occupying the White House. They also explore the challenges he faced—including religious prejudice, questions about whether a Latter-day Saint president could separate church loyalty from constitutional responsibility, and the tension between Romney’s desire to define himself as a political candidate rather than simply as “the Mormon candidate.” Most importantly, what did the Mitt Romney moment mean for Latter-day Saints? Did his campaign change how Americans viewed the Church? Did it help normalize Latter-day Saint participation in American public life? And how did the experience shape the Church’s visibility and identity in the years that followed? Join Scott and Casey as they explore Mitt Romney, presidential politics, religious identity, and the “Mormon Moment”—and why this chapter in American political and Latter-day Saint history still matters today. #ChurchHistoryMatters #MittRomney #LatterDaySaints #MormonMoment #LDSHistory #MormonHistory #ReligionAndPolitics #AmericanHistory #ScottWoodward #CaseyGriffiths

218 - Ezra Taft Benson: Conspiracy Controversies I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 20m

After serving as U.S. Secretary of Agriculture under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ezra Taft Benson returned to full-time service as an Apostle and became one of the most influential—and sometimes controversial—leaders in modern Latter-day Saint history. In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths examine Elder Benson's post-Washington years, including his outspoken warnings about communism during the Cold War, his strong advocacy for constitutional principles and free-market economics, his criticism of government welfare programs, and the debates surrounding his association with conservative political movements such as the John Birch Society. They explore how his political views were received both inside and outside the Church and how Church leaders worked to keep the Church politically neutral despite the personal convictions of individual Apostles. The episode also traces the remarkable transformation of Ezra Taft Benson's public ministry after he became the 13th President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Rather than emphasizing politics, President Benson focused the Church on what he believed mattered most: becoming true disciples of Jesus Christ through daily scripture study and repentance. His landmark call for members to flood the earth with the Book of Mormon renewed worldwide interest in the keystone scripture of the Restoration, while his unforgettable teachings on pride, humility, and the Atonement of Jesus Christ continue to influence Latter-day Saints around the world. Join Scott and Casey as they separate history from myth, examine the historical context surrounding President Benson's political legacy, and discover how his prophetic ministry ultimately centered on Christ, the Book of Mormon, and the invitation for every disciple to come unto Him. Topics covered in this episode: Ezra Taft Benson after leaving Washington, D.C. Cold War fears and anti-communism The John Birch Society and political controversy Government welfare, self-reliance, and constitutional principles Republican politics and Church neutrality Becoming President of the Church Flooding the earth with the Book of Mormon "Beware of Pride" and the call to humility President Benson's lasting prophetic legacy #ChurchHistoryMatters #EzraTaftBenson #BookofMormon #LDSHistory #ChurchHistory #Restoration #JesusChrist #ScriptureStudy #Pride #Humility #ScottWoodward #CaseyGriffiths

219 - White Horse Prophecy In Depth I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 19m

Did Joseph Smith really predict that the Constitution of the United States would one day “hang by a thread” and that the Latter-day Saints would step forward to save it? And what about the mysterious and controversial White Horse Prophecy—a dramatic account involving the future of the United States, the Constitution, and the destiny of the Latter-day Saints? In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths take a careful look at one of the most debated statements in Latter-day Saint history. The White Horse Prophecy has been repeated, quoted, expanded, and sometimes used to interpret modern politics for generations. But how much of it can actually be traced back to Joseph Smith? Scott and Casey examine the weaknesses in the prophecy's claim to authenticity, including the late recollection on which much of the account depends, the absence of a contemporary record, and questions about how the story changed and developed over time. The result is a fascinating example of why historians have to distinguish between what may have been remembered, what can be documented, and what later generations may have added to the story. But that does not mean every idea associated with the White Horse Prophecy should be dismissed. The famous concept that the Constitution of the United States would one day “hang by a thread” has a stronger historical foundation. Multiple sources attribute statements to Joseph Smith expressing concern for the future of the Constitution and describing a time when it would face grave danger. Scott and Casey explore those sources, their strengths and limitations, and what Joseph Smith may actually have meant. Join us as we separate prophecy from folklore, documentation from tradition, and historical evidence from later interpretation. What can we responsibly say Joseph Smith taught about the future of the Constitution? What parts of the White Horse Prophecy are difficult to substantiate? And why has this controversial story continued to capture the imagination of Latter-day Saints for more than a century?

216 - 3-Term Senator Elbert Thomas, GI Bill Hero I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 4m

For decades, Utah's Elbert D. Thomas represented Latter-day Saints on the national stage as one of the most influential members of Congress you've probably never heard of. In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore the remarkable life and political career of the faithful Latter-day Saint, educator, missionary, and U.S. Senator who served during some of the most pivotal years in American history. After serving a five-year mission in Japan, Thomas brought a global perspective to Washington, D.C., where he became a leading advocate for workers' rights, public education, scientific research, and social welfare during the Great Depression. Scott and Casey examine his strong support of Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal programs, his efforts to strengthen labor protections, expand educational opportunities, and help establish institutions such as the National Science Foundation. They also discuss his role in promoting the Civilian Conservation Corps, support for veterans' education, and his work toward greater federal investment in education and public welfare. The conversation also highlights Thomas's international vision. Long before the end of World War II, he warned about the persecution of European Jews, advocated for Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi oppression, and later became a vocal supporter of the newly formed United Nations and America's leadership in building a more peaceful postwar world. His experiences as an LDS missionary in Japan shaped his lifelong commitment to diplomacy, religious understanding, and international cooperation. How did a devoted Latter-day Saint become one of the Senate's most progressive voices? Why did his impressive political career end amid the political tensions of the early Cold War? Join Scott and Casey as they uncover the fascinating story of Elbert D. Thomas and explore how his faith, education, and public service intersected during one of America's most consequential eras.

215 - U.S. Attempt to Expel Utah Senator Reed Smoot I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 12m

In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore one of the most controversial political battles in Latter-day Saint history: the election and confirmation of Senator Reed Smoot. Although Smoot was not a practicing polygamist, his position as an Apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints led critics to question his loyalty to the United States and accuse the Church of continuing to wield improper political influence. Join Scott and Casey as they examine the famous Reed Smoot hearings, the national debate over religion and politics, and how this pivotal moment shaped the Church's relationship with the American government in the early twentieth century.

214 - How Polygamy Affected Utah Politics I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 6m

Religion and politics have always been intertwined in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—but where should the line be drawn? In this episode of Church History Matters, Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths explore the remarkable life and political career of Brigham H. Roberts, one of the Church's most influential scholars, historians, and public figures. From serving as a General Authority to becoming a nationally recognized political leader, B. H. Roberts found himself at the center of some of the biggest controversies of his era. Scott and Casey examine his election to the U.S. House of Representatives, why Congress ultimately refused to seat him because he continued to practice plural marriage, and how his political ambitions reflected the changing relationship between the Church, Utah, and the United States during the early twentieth century. The episode also explores Roberts's service in Utah politics, his passionate advocacy for the Democratic Party, and the challenges Church leaders faced as members became increasingly involved in partisan political life. These events provide important context for one of the Church's most significant political statements—the Political Manifesto—which established that General Authorities should not seek or hold prominent political office without First Presidency approval. Scott and Casey explain why this policy was adopted, how it reshaped the relationship between Church leadership and government service, and what lasting influence it continues to have today. Join us as we examine the fascinating intersection of faith, citizenship, and public service, and discover how the experiences of B. H. Roberts helped define the modern relationship between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and American politics.

213 - Faith, Utah Politics and Opium I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 2m

In this episode of Church History Matters, hosts Scott Woodward and Casey Griffiths continue their exploration of politics and religion by examining some of the most challenging and fascinating chapters of Latter-day Saint history. Together they explore how political pressures, party loyalties, and national events shaped the Church and its members during the nineteenth century. The discussion begins with the difficult subject of slavery in early Utah Territory, examining how Utah's territorial laws reflected the complicated political realities of the era and how Church leaders navigated an increasingly divided United States. Scott and Casey then turn to the unique political system that developed in Utah, explaining the origins of the People's Party and the Liberal Party, why they dominated territorial politics for decades, and why Church leaders ultimately encouraged their dissolution so Latter-day Saints could participate in the nation's two major political parties—the Democrats and Republicans. The episode also takes an in-depth look at the remarkable story of Apostle Moses Thatcher. Once one of the Church's most gifted leaders, Thatcher's struggles with chronic illness, reliance on opium-based medications, growing political independence, and refusal to sign the Church's Political Manifesto placed him at odds with fellow Church leaders. His eventual release from the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles remains one of the most significant intersections of faith, politics, and personal conviction in Latter-day Saint history. How should religious organizations interact with political movements? What lessons can modern believers learn from these historical experiences? And what does this history teach us about balancing civic engagement with religious devotion? Join Scott and Casey as they explore these important questions and uncover the historical context behind one of the most politically complex periods in Church history. In this episode you'll learn: • Why the People's Party and Liberal Party emerged—and why they disappeared. • How Utah transitioned into the national Democratic and Republican parties. • The life, political views, and challenges of Apostle Moses Thatcher. • The role of the Political Manifesto and its impact on Church leadership. • Lessons about religion, politics, and faithful citizenship that continue to resonate today. If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about Latter-day Saint history, be sure to like, subscribe, and share this episode with others interested in the Restoration and its historical context. #ChurchHistoryMatters #ChurchHistory #LDSHistory #MormonHistory #ReligionAndPolitics #MosesThatcher #UtahHistory #Slavery #Restoration #ScottWoodward #CaseyGriffiths

212 - New Data: History of the LDS Church and Slavery I Religion & Politics I Church History Matters
1h 17m

How did the early Latter-day Saints navigate one of the most difficult and divisive issues in American history—slavery? In this episode of Church History Matters, hosts Casey Griffiths and Scott Woodward are joined by historian and author Paul Reeve for an in-depth discussion on slavery, race, and the Latter-day Saint experience in nineteenth-century America. Together, they explore the broader history of slavery in the United States, the political tensions that surrounded westward expansion, and how these national debates influenced the Utah Territory. What were the views of early Church leaders regarding slavery? Why did slavery exist in Utah Territory, and how did it differ from slavery in the American South? How did questions surrounding slavery affect Utah’s relationship with the federal government and its long road to statehood? Drawing on historical documents and recent scholarship, Paul Reeve helps unpack the complex realities of race, slavery, territorial politics, and religion in the nineteenth century. The conversation examines the legal status of slavery in Utah, the experiences of enslaved individuals in the territory, and the ways national conflicts over slavery shaped perceptions of the Latter-day Saints during the years leading up to the Civil War and beyond.