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· 1h 12m· Season 3, episode 125

Bible Scholar: "America Is Not a Christian Nation!" | Charlie Dates Educates Lecrae

The Deep End With Lecrae

About this episode

What happens when a pastor refuses to separate the gospel from justice? Lecrae sits down with pastor, theologian, and author Charlie Dates for a candid conversation about the Black church, American Christianity, and the cost of speaking up.

Charlie opens up about why he had to tell his congregation he was wrong about a church partnership, how he handles the pressure of money in ministry, and why he believes justice and righteousness belong together. He and Lecrae also talk about the legacy of the Black church, Martin Luther King Jr. and Billy Graham, and the question of whether America is a Christian nation.

They get into faith and Black Greek life, hope for people hurt by the church, fatherhood, and what marriage has taught Charlie about dying to himself.

Let's go to the Deep End!

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