Obedience Comes Before Confidence - Shane Winnings, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shane Winnings, the CEO of Promise Keepers, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before he led a national men's ministry, Shane was an Army officer and jumpmaster, then a police officer in one of the most violent stretches of Washington State.

He has been shot at in war, and the thing that scared him most was walking up to a stranger to talk about Jesus. This episode is about where that fear comes from, why it hits Christians who are brave everywhere else, and the simple rule that finally beat it.

CHAPTERS

(0:00) Army officer, cop, and now the man running Promise Keepers

(2:18) The night on his bed and one sentence from God

(5:23) Quitting the badge with a pregnant wife, funded in 19 days

(8:05) Shot at in war, still scared of a stranger in a park

(9:35) The stranger you're avoiding might have prayed last night

(13:17) Joby's 14,000 foot jump with a team of Navy SEALs

(19:47) Why reps kill fear in every arena

(22:50) You cannot argue anyone into heaven

(34:30) Never apologize for the anointing

(48:43) The past that Romans 8 never mentions

(52:39) Where's the line between the pulpit and politics?

(1:11:21) Would Jesus abdicate his role as a citizen?

(1:23:58) The night Charlie Kirk died, from this studio

(1:32:35) You can hate his values. He is still a person.

(1:38:43) Demons are discipling your kids 30 feet away