R&B Legend Exposes the Dark Side of the Industry, Talks Boyz II Men, Faith

Lecrae sits down with Boyz II Men founding member Shawn Stockman for a conversation that goes far beyond the music. Shawn reflects on the journey from a kid in Southwest Philly to becoming part of one of the biggest groups in the world, and what happened when the industry that celebrated them began to move on.

He opens up about race, the realities behind the music business, the difficult years Boyz II Men faced as a group, and how his understanding of success and purpose changed through fatherhood.

01:04 Introduction
05:06 Shawn Stockman Before Boyz II Men
07:07 Dreaming of Being on Stage
09:11 The Moment His Mom Heard His Voice
12:56 From Classical Training to R&B
14:52 How His Father Changed His Life
17:17 The Audition That Almost Didn't Happen
19:54 The Road to Boyz II Men
25:19 How Shawn Joined the Group
26:50 The Truth Behind Boyz II Men's Clean Cut Image
30:27 Sponsor
32:21 Boyz II Men Had Nothing to Prove
35:35 Surviving Three Record Labels
37:31 When the Music Industry Moves On
40:24 Did Boyz II Men Create the Boy Band Blueprint?
41:47 Race and the Crossover Success of Boyz II Men
44:13 Could Their Success Happen Again?
47:50 Sponsor
50:29 What Really Happens Behind the Music Industry
51:29 Being Taken Advantage of at the Top
55:05 Learning the Business Behind the Money
58:22 What Kept Boyz II Men Together
1:00:04 When Michael McCary Left the Group
1:00:31 Going from Arenas to Empty Clubs
1:02:51 Why Success Couldn't Make Him Happy
1:05:43 Finding Purpose Through Fatherhood
1:08:35 Raising a Son with Autism
1:10:07 Why Shawn and His Wife Started Giving Back
1:12:09 Would Michael McCary Ever Rejoin Boyz II Men?

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