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· 1h 23m· Season 3, episode 66

Ep 66 — Can Structure Kill the Spirit? Rich & Abbie Gamboa Go There — Rich Wilkerson Jr.

Mature Me w/ Rich Wilkerson Jr.

About this episode

This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Abbie Gamboa—worship leader, songwriter, and member of UPPERROOM.

Abbie’s life is marked by surrender, spontaneity, and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She opens up about learning to lead before she felt ready, navigating the tension between excellence and expression, and how motherhood reshaped her view of worship and leadership.

This conversation is a powerful reminder: God doesn’t always come the same way twice. The greatest offering is your posture, not your performance.

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